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Lost so far? Our thoughts up to 6.06

Lost so far? Our thoughts up to 6.06

February 24th, 2010 — 3:55pm

Last night’s episode was phenomenal! There are tons of recaps on the Lost theory site darkufo, and podcasts on the Lost podcasting network that do a great job of recapping the Jack-centric episode Lighthouse.

We skipped writing recaps for the previous two episodes The Substitute and What Kate Does, but recaps are also available on lostpedia.

This week, the story has progressed to the point where we are going to go out on a limb to dig into a concept we mentioned in our recap of the premiere of season 6 “LA X”. In our previous post, we discussed the theory that the “Flash Sideways” are actually the resolution of our characters’ story. The producers want to give us the actual backstory of the characters outside of life on the island.

This is a redemption story

lost producers: Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse

lost producers: Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse

If you’ve watched the Lost recaps before each season, or you’ve listened to the official Lost podcast by Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, the producers have been hinting at certain themes throughout the series which are becoming more pronounced.

Official Lost Podcast – Dec 06, 2006 (mp3)

The producers remind us that redemption has been an overriding theme of the series since Day 1. “Kate blew up a house with a man inside,” Lindelof says. “Sayid is a torturer. Sawyer has done all sorts of nasty things. That’s the space the show lives in. Michael was one of the few characters who was a victim before he came to the Island. He was a good guy, and his wife took his son away from him. He didn’t have anything to be redeemed for until now.” – lostpedia

We want to go out on a limb here and throw out the idea that the Flash sideways are, in fact, the redemption that the producers have been hinting at the entire time.

Flash “sideways” are glimpses of the end of the show

If you don’t know what we mean by “flash sideways,” read our previous recap, where we explain the concept in detail at the end of the article.

Jack from Lost, Season 6, Episode 1 - LA X

Here’s what we think happened:

  1. In the very first episode, we see our Losties on Oceanic flight 815, we watch the turbulence and then there’s a break in the time-line where, in another scenario, the plane would have crashed
  2. We watch the events of the island and what our characters have to go through to “redeem” themselves on and off the island
  3. At some point during this season, our Losties will make a decision that will end the split in the time-line. At this point, we flash back to the opening of season 6 where Jack is looking out of the window and we see the island at the bottom of the ocean.
  4. All of the flash sideways we are watching this season are a way for the producers to show us the resolved storyline of our characters without having to spend the entire last episode telling this story.

Open ended questions

Here are some open ended questions we’d love to get feedback on in the comment section.

  • How does the theme of destiny vs free will come into play during this season?
  • Why are these specific people so important?
  • What does Jacob vs. Smoke Monster have to do with the story of these specific individuals?
  • How many times has this happened in the past?

Last Thoughts

possible looping nature of lost
possible looping nature of lost

We think it’s important to remind people that the initial name of the show was called “The Circle.” Clearly, these chain of events have happened in the past.

We think the real big question is: “What makes this iteration of The Circle or The Loop result in the character’s redemption story?”

Let us know what you think in the comment section!

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  • Jayburd
    Extremely well thought out theory, guys! Only trouble is, I don't really agree with it. I just think it's a bit too convoluted even for LOST.

    I personally think it's easier for people to wrap their brains around the idea of continuing with the regular Island timeline we've known all along and now this new alternate timeline which started in 1977 at the time of The Incident when Juliet bashed the nuke with a rock. It was at that moment when the course of lives of our Losties, Ben, Ethan, Dogen, and everyone else we've seen (or have yet to see) was altered and this separate timeline began.

    I've heard it said, and I agree that these timelines are going to somehow converge. The first tangible sign of this, I think, is Jack not remembering his apendectomy.

    I am of the opinion that this "timeline convergence" is going to get a big boost with the next Desmond-centric episode and that Desmond himself is going to be a key factor in the universe "course correcting" itself. Since Season 3, there seems to be a pattern that there would be a big episode like this, per season, centering around Desmond, and offering invaluable exposition on some of the show's larger themes, beginning with "Flashes Before Your Eyes," in Season 3, and continuing with "The Constant," in season 4, and "Jughead" in Season 5.

    BTW, love the podcast. I listen every week...
  • Jay, I think you may be on to something. I definitely think Desmond is going to have something to do with the timeline convergence.

    It's probably worth waiting to see what happens because there's no way to intelligently hypothesize what's in the head of the producers. I will say this though, from the previews of the next episode that aired at the end of the last episode, there were no hints of a Desmond centric episode.

    I dunno just a thought
  • Brendan
    Nice drawing, but saying "clearly these chain of events have happened in the past" is quite a logical leap. Based on what we've seen, on screen, I don't think that's clear at all. What we have seen is an amazing ring of coincidences and parallelisms. The characters have cycled through the same behaviors over and over, within their own lives, because of their various psychological hangups - that could just as easily be "The Circle" they must escape, it needn't be about quantum physics. In fact, if you're taking what Lindelof and Cuse say into account, they've stated that their done with heavy science this season.

    "It only ends once - everything else is just progress." When Jacob spoke these words, I think it's likely he was referring to the endless conflict between himself and the Smoke Monster, not our 815'ers in a time loop. Now that we've seen the long list of names and numbers crossed out at the cave and the lighthouse, it seems even more likely to me that Jacob has been looking for that one, final group of people who can end the conflict once and for all. I still don't think there's much direct evidence for a massive time loop theory - bear in mind we still don't know exactly what the flash sideways are.
  • It's definitely a logical leap, I think the closet thing to what we were referring to were the events surrounding Desmond in "flashes before your eyes" how he was able to relive a part of his life (I may be confusing this with "The Constant")

    You know how in one scenario the soccer team wins, and he remembers that. That's the only evidence we have of looping, and I know in that episode they were dealing with conscious mind time travel, not the looping of the story.
  • Brendan
    Fair enough, and that is a good example with Desmond. Then again, he's referred to as "wonderfully, remarkably special" or however it's phrased, by Faraday, so not sure how it ties in with the other survivors. Of course Faraday didn't have the sense to avoid being shot by his own mother, so......

    I'm really curious to see if Desmond returns and if he and his abilities play any major role. The actor is still listed in the main cast, but he was also accused of sexual harassment last season by an employee on set, so it seems up in the air.

    As everything with Lost, wait and see, wait and see.
  • do you think desmond is the person who Jacob was referring to when he said he's trying to bring someone to the island?
  • adelvise
    I thought the skeleton thing was more of a "trick" or just a humorous attempt by the writers to throw the fans a bone, since we've known for some time now that the skeletons were going to be important to the end of the show. Loved that cave scene though.

    But I feel like we're seeing sawyer run another long con, but the biggest of all this time (fooling smokey).

    Diagram is good but I think the correct decision's gotta point back to the start of the redemption timeline in the 70s bc everything is diff in their lives, not just the plane not crashing.
  • Gj.
    I think everything did change in the 70's and not just when the plane didn't crash. If in fact Jughead worked and blew up the island not just would the plane not have crashed but also the lives of many other people who came to the island between the 70's and the plane crash (like Juliet) would change, therewith creating a butterfly effect. This would explain the alterations in the lifes of the Losties. I would even bet one of the people who came tot the island between the 70's and 2004 will prove to be David Shepard's mother (Juliet, anyone?).
  • ats
    Really like that last point about saywer. Time and time again he has shown that although he tries to be a badass, he has a big heart and is kind of selfless in his attempts to "do the right thing".
  • ats
    Very interesting article. Especially like the diagram. Thought that hugo bringing up the idea that "the skeletons could actually been them" was a huge hint.

    Also, u guys should look into this new "mirror theory" I've been reading about. In light of the mirror we saw in the lighthouse, ppl subsequently noticed that every flash sideways has occurred right after a character looks in the mirror.
  • adelvise
    I'm pretty sure the answer lies in the whole Desmond-Faraday incident from episode "Because You Left" in season 5. We know from Faraday that Desmond is "special", implying his ability to remember his consciousness time jumping (Flash Before Your Eyes) and ability to remember those jumps. Note that when Faraday told him to find his mom, Desmond doesn't remember it until that specific moment in Faraday's timeline (although they are different time periods, you can think of it as "time lapsed" for Faraday, the same as the "time lapsed" for Desmond).

    The same thing is happening to the characters in the Alt universe... except they don't have the ability to remember the other timeline. If their ENTIRE lives have truly been changed by blowing up Jughead in the 70s (sunken island = no Jacob interfering in their lives), wouldn't they have been more aware of those changes their whole lives? But no, it isn't until Oceanic 815 DOESN'T crash that they start being all like, "WTF mate?" and noticing each other (see Kate staring at Jack in the middle of a friggin carjacking, Kate not going back for Claire until she sees the very same killer stuffed whale she gave Aaron in the other timeline, Jack not remembering his appendix scar).

    So basically yes, their entire lives are changed from start to finish, but they aren't aware of it until that inflection point in time where the plane was supposed to crash. Desmond's attitude on the plane also seemed to have an eerie contentness, as if he knew what was going on because he can remember.
  • Great post guys, nice one
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