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	<title>Comments on: Lost so far? Our thoughts up to 6.06</title>
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		<title>By: yaw etse</title>
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		<dc:creator>yaw etse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do you think desmond is the person who Jacob was referring to when he said he&#039;s trying to bring someone to the island?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you think desmond is the person who Jacob was referring to when he said he&#39;s trying to bring someone to the island?</p>
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		<title>By: yaw etse</title>
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		<dc:creator>yaw etse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, I think you may be on to something. I definitely think Desmond is going to have something to do with the timeline convergence. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s probably worth waiting to see what happens because there&#039;s no way to intelligently hypothesize what&#039;s in the head of the  producers. I will say this though, from the previews of the next episode that aired at the end of the last episode, there were no hints of a Desmond centric episode.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I dunno just a thought</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, I think you may be on to something. I definitely think Desmond is going to have something to do with the timeline convergence. </p>
<p>It&#39;s probably worth waiting to see what happens because there&#39;s no way to intelligently hypothesize what&#39;s in the head of the  producers. I will say this though, from the previews of the next episode that aired at the end of the last episode, there were no hints of a Desmond centric episode.</p>
<p>I dunno just a thought</p>
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		<title>By: Jayburd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayburd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extremely well thought out theory, guys! Only trouble is, I don&#039;t really agree with it. I just think it&#039;s a bit too convoluted even for LOST. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I personally think it&#039;s easier for people to wrap their brains around the idea of continuing with the regular Island timeline we&#039;ve known all along and now this new alternate timeline which started in 1977 at the time of The Incident when Juliet bashed the nuke with a rock. It was at that moment when the course of lives of our Losties, Ben, Ethan, Dogen, and everyone else we&#039;ve seen (or have yet to see) was altered and this separate timeline began.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve heard it said, and I agree that these timelines are going to somehow converge. The first tangible sign of this, I think, is Jack not remembering his apendectomy. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am of the opinion that this &quot;timeline convergence&quot; is going to get a big boost with the next Desmond-centric episode and that Desmond himself is going to be a key factor in the universe &quot;course correcting&quot; itself. Since Season 3, there seems to be a pattern that there would be a big episode like this, per season, centering around Desmond, and offering invaluable exposition on some of the show&#039;s larger themes, beginning with &quot;Flashes Before Your Eyes,&quot; in Season 3, and continuing with &quot;The Constant,&quot; in season 4, and &quot;Jughead&quot; in Season 5. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, love the podcast. I listen every week...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extremely well thought out theory, guys! Only trouble is, I don&#39;t really agree with it. I just think it&#39;s a bit too convoluted even for LOST. </p>
<p>I personally think it&#39;s easier for people to wrap their brains around the idea of continuing with the regular Island timeline we&#39;ve known all along and now this new alternate timeline which started in 1977 at the time of The Incident when Juliet bashed the nuke with a rock. It was at that moment when the course of lives of our Losties, Ben, Ethan, Dogen, and everyone else we&#39;ve seen (or have yet to see) was altered and this separate timeline began.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve heard it said, and I agree that these timelines are going to somehow converge. The first tangible sign of this, I think, is Jack not remembering his apendectomy. </p>
<p>I am of the opinion that this &#8220;timeline convergence&#8221; is going to get a big boost with the next Desmond-centric episode and that Desmond himself is going to be a key factor in the universe &#8220;course correcting&#8221; itself. Since Season 3, there seems to be a pattern that there would be a big episode like this, per season, centering around Desmond, and offering invaluable exposition on some of the show&#39;s larger themes, beginning with &#8220;Flashes Before Your Eyes,&#8221; in Season 3, and continuing with &#8220;The Constant,&#8221; in season 4, and &#8220;Jughead&#8221; in Season 5. </p>
<p>BTW, love the podcast. I listen every week&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough, and that is a good example with Desmond.  Then again, he&#039;s referred to as &quot;wonderfully, remarkably special&quot; or however it&#039;s phrased, by Faraday, so not sure how it ties in with the other survivors.  Of course Faraday didn&#039;t have the sense to avoid being shot by his own mother, so......&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m really curious to see if Desmond returns and if he and his abilities play any major role.  The actor is still listed in the main cast, but he was also accused of sexual harassment last season by an employee on set, so it seems up in the air.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As everything with Lost, wait and see, wait and see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, and that is a good example with Desmond.  Then again, he&#39;s referred to as &#8220;wonderfully, remarkably special&#8221; or however it&#39;s phrased, by Faraday, so not sure how it ties in with the other survivors.  Of course Faraday didn&#39;t have the sense to avoid being shot by his own mother, so&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#39;m really curious to see if Desmond returns and if he and his abilities play any major role.  The actor is still listed in the main cast, but he was also accused of sexual harassment last season by an employee on set, so it seems up in the air.</p>
<p>As everything with Lost, wait and see, wait and see.</p>
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		<title>By: yaw etse</title>
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		<dc:creator>yaw etse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s definitely a logical leap, I think the closet thing to what we were referring to were the events surrounding Desmond in &quot;flashes before your eyes&quot; how he was able to relive a part of his life (I may be confusing this with &quot;The Constant&quot;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You know how in one scenario the soccer team wins, and he remembers that. That&#039;s the only evidence we have of looping, and I know in that episode they were dealing with conscious mind time travel, not the looping of the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s definitely a logical leap, I think the closet thing to what we were referring to were the events surrounding Desmond in &#8220;flashes before your eyes&#8221; how he was able to relive a part of his life (I may be confusing this with &#8220;The Constant&#8221;)</p>
<p>You know how in one scenario the soccer team wins, and he remembers that. That&#39;s the only evidence we have of looping, and I know in that episode they were dealing with conscious mind time travel, not the looping of the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice drawing, but saying &quot;clearly these chain of events have happened in the past&quot; is quite a logical leap.  Based on what we&#039;ve seen, on screen, I don&#039;t think that&#039;s clear at all.  What we have seen is an amazing ring of coincidences and parallelisms.  The characters have cycled through the same behaviors over and over, within their own lives, because of their various psychological hangups - that could just as easily be &quot;The Circle&quot; they must escape, it needn&#039;t be about quantum physics.  In fact, if you&#039;re taking what Lindelof and Cuse say into account, they&#039;ve stated that their done with heavy science this season.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;It only ends once - everything else is just progress.&quot;  When Jacob spoke these words, I think it&#039;s likely he was referring to the endless conflict between himself and the Smoke Monster, not our 815&#039;ers in a time loop.  Now that we&#039;ve seen the long list of names and numbers crossed out at the cave and the lighthouse, it seems even more likely to me that Jacob has been looking for that one, final group of people who can end the conflict once and for all.  I still don&#039;t think there&#039;s much direct evidence for a massive time loop theory - bear in mind we still don&#039;t know exactly what the flash sideways are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice drawing, but saying &#8220;clearly these chain of events have happened in the past&#8221; is quite a logical leap.  Based on what we&#39;ve seen, on screen, I don&#39;t think that&#39;s clear at all.  What we have seen is an amazing ring of coincidences and parallelisms.  The characters have cycled through the same behaviors over and over, within their own lives, because of their various psychological hangups &#8211; that could just as easily be &#8220;The Circle&#8221; they must escape, it needn&#39;t be about quantum physics.  In fact, if you&#39;re taking what Lindelof and Cuse say into account, they&#39;ve stated that their done with heavy science this season.</p>
<p>&#8220;It only ends once &#8211; everything else is just progress.&#8221;  When Jacob spoke these words, I think it&#39;s likely he was referring to the endless conflict between himself and the Smoke Monster, not our 815&#39;ers in a time loop.  Now that we&#39;ve seen the long list of names and numbers crossed out at the cave and the lighthouse, it seems even more likely to me that Jacob has been looking for that one, final group of people who can end the conflict once and for all.  I still don&#39;t think there&#39;s much direct evidence for a massive time loop theory &#8211; bear in mind we still don&#39;t know exactly what the flash sideways are.</p>
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		<title>By: Gj.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gj.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everything did change in the 70&#039;s and not just when the plane didn&#039;t crash. If in fact Jughead worked and blew up the island not just would the plane not have crashed but also the lives of many other people who came to the island between the 70&#039;s and the plane crash (like Juliet) would change, therewith creating a butterfly effect. This would explain the alterations in the lifes of the Losties. I would even bet one of the people who came tot the island between the 70&#039;s and 2004 will prove to be David Shepard&#039;s mother (Juliet, anyone?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everything did change in the 70&#39;s and not just when the plane didn&#39;t crash. If in fact Jughead worked and blew up the island not just would the plane not have crashed but also the lives of many other people who came to the island between the 70&#39;s and the plane crash (like Juliet) would change, therewith creating a butterfly effect. This would explain the alterations in the lifes of the Losties. I would even bet one of the people who came tot the island between the 70&#39;s and 2004 will prove to be David Shepard&#39;s mother (Juliet, anyone?).</p>
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		<title>By: adelvise</title>
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		<dc:creator>adelvise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure the answer lies in the whole Desmond-Faraday incident from episode &quot;Because You Left&quot; in season 5. We know from Faraday that Desmond is &quot;special&quot;, implying his ability to remember his consciousness time jumping (Flash Before Your Eyes) and ability to remember those jumps. Note that when Faraday told him to find his mom, Desmond doesn&#039;t remember it until that specific moment in Faraday&#039;s timeline (although they are different time periods, you can think of it as &quot;time lapsed&quot; for Faraday, the same as the &quot;time lapsed&quot; for Desmond).&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;The same thing is happening to the characters in the Alt universe... except they don&#039;t have the ability to remember the other timeline. If their ENTIRE lives have truly been changed by blowing up Jughead in the 70s (sunken island = no Jacob interfering in their lives), wouldn&#039;t they have been more aware of those changes their whole lives? But no, it isn&#039;t until Oceanic 815 DOESN&#039;T crash that they start being all like, &quot;WTF mate?&quot; and noticing each other (see Kate staring at Jack in the middle of a friggin carjacking, Kate not going back for Claire until she sees the very same killer stuffed whale she gave Aaron in the other timeline, Jack not remembering his appendix scar).&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;So basically yes, their entire lives are changed from start to finish, but they aren&#039;t aware of it until that inflection point in time where the plane was supposed to crash. Desmond&#039;s attitude on the plane also seemed to have an eerie contentness, as if he knew what was going on because he can remember.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m pretty sure the answer lies in the whole Desmond-Faraday incident from episode &#8220;Because You Left&#8221; in season 5. We know from Faraday that Desmond is &#8220;special&#8221;, implying his ability to remember his consciousness time jumping (Flash Before Your Eyes) and ability to remember those jumps. Note that when Faraday told him to find his mom, Desmond doesn&#39;t remember it until that specific moment in Faraday&#39;s timeline (although they are different time periods, you can think of it as &#8220;time lapsed&#8221; for Faraday, the same as the &#8220;time lapsed&#8221; for Desmond).</p>
<p>The same thing is happening to the characters in the Alt universe&#8230; except they don&#39;t have the ability to remember the other timeline. If their ENTIRE lives have truly been changed by blowing up Jughead in the 70s (sunken island = no Jacob interfering in their lives), wouldn&#39;t they have been more aware of those changes their whole lives? But no, it isn&#39;t until Oceanic 815 DOESN&#39;T crash that they start being all like, &#8220;WTF mate?&#8221; and noticing each other (see Kate staring at Jack in the middle of a friggin carjacking, Kate not going back for Claire until she sees the very same killer stuffed whale she gave Aaron in the other timeline, Jack not remembering his appendix scar).</p>
<p>So basically yes, their entire lives are changed from start to finish, but they aren&#39;t aware of it until that inflection point in time where the plane was supposed to crash. Desmond&#39;s attitude on the plane also seemed to have an eerie contentness, as if he knew what was going on because he can remember.</p>
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		<title>By: ats</title>
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		<dc:creator>ats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really like that last point about saywer. Time and time again he has shown that although he tries to be a badass, he has a big heart and is kind of selfless in his attempts to &quot;do the right thing&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really like that last point about saywer. Time and time again he has shown that although he tries to be a badass, he has a big heart and is kind of selfless in his attempts to &#8220;do the right thing&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: adelvise</title>
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		<dc:creator>adelvise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the skeleton thing was more of a &quot;trick&quot; or just a humorous attempt by the writers to throw the fans a bone, since we&#039;ve known for some time now that the skeletons were going to be important to the end of the show. Loved that cave scene though.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I feel like we&#039;re seeing sawyer run another long con, but the biggest of all this time (fooling smokey).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Diagram is good but I think the correct decision&#039;s gotta point back to the start of the redemption timeline in the 70s bc everything is diff in their lives, not just the plane not crashing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the skeleton thing was more of a &#8220;trick&#8221; or just a humorous attempt by the writers to throw the fans a bone, since we&#39;ve known for some time now that the skeletons were going to be important to the end of the show. Loved that cave scene though.</p>
<p>But I feel like we&#39;re seeing sawyer run another long con, but the biggest of all this time (fooling smokey).</p>
<p>Diagram is good but I think the correct decision&#39;s gotta point back to the start of the redemption timeline in the 70s bc everything is diff in their lives, not just the plane not crashing.</p>
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		<title>By: ats</title>
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		<dc:creator>ats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting article. Especially like the diagram. Thought that hugo bringing up the idea that &quot;the skeletons could actually been them&quot; was a huge hint. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, u guys should look into this new &quot;mirror theory&quot; I&#039;ve been reading about. In light of the mirror we saw in the lighthouse, ppl subsequently noticed that every flash sideways has occurred right after a character looks in the mirror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article. Especially like the diagram. Thought that hugo bringing up the idea that &#8220;the skeletons could actually been them&#8221; was a huge hint. </p>
<p>Also, u guys should look into this new &#8220;mirror theory&#8221; I&#39;ve been reading about. In light of the mirror we saw in the lighthouse, ppl subsequently noticed that every flash sideways has occurred right after a character looks in the mirror.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkUFO</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarkUFO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post guys, nice one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post guys, nice one</p>
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		<dc:creator>The Lost Mystery Podcast with Anton and Evan &#187; Lost Mystery Podcast Episode 104: Lost S6 – Lighthouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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